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  1. #151
    Mr. Panos and other friends,
    Maybe you have not bothered to see these photos, this is 5.6 kw version on 1 ohm load,not 20 kw,A real practical circuit, 20 kw. version in ab class can also be made but I also know that won't be a practical amplifier, As you have mentioned lots of power supply , which won't be possible with single phase, and tons of output transistors with lots of heat sinks and fans to cool.4 nos. of these 5.6 kw. can be used in practical to give more than 20 kw., about H class and D class i know they are more efficiant , but I am a class AB lover , so I will go only with class ab.To see my works please spare some time and visit ---https://www.facebook.com/vedmitraa

  2. #152
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    Lets go to the real world Panos, i did 2 with 78% efficientcy or more, so it is surely possible. No no no You do NOT need 40kW to do 20kW in old timers where one did not have almost any other possibilities to reach rail to rail Yes one had to use a 40kW ++ power Supply. But since only one rail at the time is at full (or the anp is defekt). 20kW is enought. Heat is to be removed by some not large but efficient fans. And Yes there will be a huge demand of safety systems on this amp. There are a lot of possibilities here a V-limiter is one thing but not enought, the I-limiter is easy to implement.

    Ever seen a amp with 20kW ? No but 16 :. And doing 2 * 5600W bridged could get realy close to 20kW.
    Yes it will be a little easier with switched amps, but the beauty disappears a bit :. " have been shown somewhere in the forums here, but looking at connectors my estimate is that something will burn when used fully.

    The only realy sad thing about this huge amp is the possibility of explotions due to bad cabling and bad speakers. Distributing 20kW is NOT an easy hobby task :. And remember the fuse of an amp can be changed, the fuse of a person cannot.

  3. #153
    can you tell me how you will manage to get 20 kw of sound from an 20kw power supply?
    the amp should have 100%efeciency....
    the 16kw amp you are talking about is ab class ?
    78% efeciency can be obtained with class h amp ..not with class ab...
    and what speakers will you power with 20kw???
    there is a big diferecne between mulitsim and real world.....

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    1: Let the supply be partly controlled by output of amp. Not directly but like if the amp output was connected to "zero" of supply. Read i did NOT say GND for avoid confusion.
    2: Claiming 100% needed is as insaint as vishing for winning in lotto each draw 4 month in a row. But yes in a perfect world yes.
    3: One of the was AB the other switched.
    4: Then tell Audio Precision their test stations meassure wrong :.
    5: Ahm hm Stop. I did not say i would do this, actually almost opersite. It will be very very dangerous to supply speakers from only one 20kW amp. The voltage and current are well above what most of us finds funny or healthy. Personally I would stop at 2 - 4 kW and then have a couple of them, it will be much much more safe to do. And having 4 *4kW is still nice :.
    6: Only when you use bad models. I have seen a company, who did some test on a PC server power supply, 3 phase 2kW. And it was only the rush in current they could not get right in simulation. Taken the picture of a Agilient scope and (OK not MultiSim) pSpice, pSpice showed a slitely higher ripple compared to real world. So in short, it depends on your models... Yes they payed a fantazilliation for some of the models. And they actually do high-end switched amps dayly in simulation without any difference to the real world.

  5. #155
    hello vedmitra may i ask u a question regarding on ur photos of u toroid core .that is a perfect cirlce ryt? but how about when i used a not perfect circle core like the core of refregirator machine can i used it even in not perfect cirlce? im new talking about toroids transformer.

  6. #156
    hello sir vedmitra nice reading on this thread ..u have a powerful amps.. cani used it and make it ?thnks

  7. #157
    please i need speaker short circuit protection schematic diagram. i mean protect when speaker + and speaker- touch

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